Dumbledore appeals to Fudge several times to listen to reason and even at the end of OotP has a meeting with him to explain what happened in the ministry. We don't know the details of his altercation with Dumbledore, but I find it hard to believe that Scrimgeour would have been just as unwilling to compromise and listen to Dumbledore as Fudge was. Scrimgeour was not only unlucky, but truthfully, I think he was just not helped enough. Just by doing that he probably helped defeat Voldemort because if they know exactly where harry is there’s a good chance that harry doesn’t make it out of the wedding. What should be said about him though was that he was a good man at the end of the day and he suffered torture and death rather than betray harry. I don’t think he did much to help defeat Voldemort but I don’t think anyone outside of the order would’ve been able to at that point anyway. He’s not doing a great job at keeping the wizarding world together but it’s not completely falling apart until dumbledore dies and then the whole system falls down as there’s no one powerful enough to stop the death eaters anymore. Without dumbledore or harry helping him then he had very little chance to do much but try and stem the bleeding. He didn’t bank on Harry’s utter mistrust of authority figures and didn’t realise that Harry trusted dumbledore not because he was an authority figure but because he had earned his trust. I’m sure scrimgeour was banking on Harry’s lust for revenge and hatred of Voldemort to be major motivations for him to want to do anything to help defeat Voldemort. Without dumbledore his next bet was using harry as a motivational icon to rally around but dumbledore was protecting harry and when scrimgeour got a chance to meet harry he misjudged him. He needed dumbledore to come out and support the fight against Voldemort but dumbledore was to busy doing his own thing. Dumbledore was the only wizard who was able to go toe to toe with Voldemort in a duel. His best and only hope was dumbledore and harry. Also the chance of getting spurs or informants into voldemorts circle was long gone. He didn’t know who he could trust fully in the ministry and he had no idea and no possibility of finding Voldemort to try and stop him. Scrimgeour had very little in his favour to play with. Voldemort and been allowed to grow in strength, he’d been able to recruit all of his old followers and magical creatures to his side and he’d been able to infiltrate the ministry significantly. I think realistically he had no chance of winning. So the question is, did anything he did really help Harry defeat Voldemort in the long run?Įdit: Bill Nighy really was a great choice for the part! Underrated and amazing casting! They really made him look like how the book describes him! We know he helped Molly and Arthur put protections up for Harry at the Burrow.ĭespite his efforts, the DE did take over. He worked with them despite not being in it. He wasn't exactly in the Order, but he was Order-adjacent and an ally of Harry's. I think he was a good option, he seemed like a more politcally-minded Mad Eye Moody. I think he tried, but maybe he didn't know it was already too late. He was voted in because he said he could fight against the Death Eaters. It was said that he was tortured for Harry's whereabouts, but never gave it up. I thought this would be interesting to ask because I never see him talked about here! He was Minister of Magic in part of the 6th and 7th books, before he died by torture. For spoiler tags, enter >!your text like this!r/HPStudyHall - where all the links to points activities are consolidated in one easy place!.r/Arithmancy is now giving points! If you like puzzles, riddles, and the like, join Arithmancy! They do 4 monthly puzzles run by volunteers, most of the solving is done in Discord (links in their sidebar), and you can help your house earn points.The Quibbler - Archive of the fan-made Quibbler Magazine.Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery Official Game sub.Harry Potter: Wizards Unite Official Game sub.HP Fan Fiction - For discussion of Harry Potter Fan Fiction.Stop in each Tuesday night to show off your Potter knowledge and earn house points! Dueling - For all your trivia-related needs.Harry Potter Meta - Where you can easily share and discuss ideas with the mods about The Great Hall!.The expanded, full rules can be found here: Full Rules Events Help the mods enforce these rules by reporting posts and comments that violate them! Follow reddit's rules and " reddiquette".If you want to get a house crest and/or title by your username, or gain access to your common room, please check here for instructions. Have a question about the series? Check out our commonly asked questions here before you post! Have a question about the series? Check out our commonly asked questions here before you post!
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